Blackout should be the highest priority along with strobe, blinder, speed

[StecksDJ]

I've searched these forums for an answer and I found it on another post where somebody posted the priority list of the Wolfmix buttons. How is the BLACKOUT button a smaller priority than the LIVE EDITS? This makes no sense to me. So if you make 60 presets, where 40 contain live edits, then these 40 presets will never go full dark when pressing the gigantic BLACKOUT button on the right side?

I've seen the update notes for the DOUBLE FX but no news of a BLACKOUT override for everything?

[willm]

Hello,

The Flash FX buttons target specific channels depending on what is available in the fixture to achieve the desired effect. For example- Blackout will target Colour channels, Dimmer channels, and Shutter channels in order to blackout the fixture. Strobe will look for Strobe channels, and if not- it will create a virtual strobe using the Colour channels.

Live Edits however are designed as program overrides, so they will take higher priority than all other aspects of the Wolfmix (all static screens, all FX screens, all Flash FX). So- if you have a Live Edit that controls the Colour, Dimmer and/or Shutter channels of a certain fixture- then you might end up causing some fixtures to be on permanently. Depending on how you use Live Edits however, this doesn't need to be the case- but this depends on the fixtures you are using and what channels they contain.

If for example you have a Live Edit that you use to set some fixtures to a specific colour, then perhaps there might be a chance to leave any Dimmer or Shutter channel out of the Live Edit so that the fixture can respond correctly to the Blackout. Perhaps providing some more information on how exactly you are using your Live Edits, and what fixtures you are seeing the problem on would help us to provide some advice on how we can work around this (feel free to also attach images and/or a copy of the project file so that we can look into it ourselves also).

Kind regards,
Will

[Sayhello]

Hello all

Indirectly I also have a problem with fictures that contain the option ( others )
Firstly, it would be nice to be able to give ( others ) their own name by myself.

Example:
I have Showtec pixel bars 12. I set up 7dmx channels. I also have an option programs (dmx channel4).
If i want to store this in my ficture i only have the option ( others ) in Wolfmix.

I cannot adjust ( other) in the preset, so I make a live edit and store this in the preset.
But when I save these in preset they do not respond to blackout, strobe...

Or does anyone have another solution to adjust and save the settings as a preset

Regards Ingo

[willm]

Hello,

I can see that there are multiple fixtures for different iterations of the Pixel Bar 12- so firstly would you please be able to confirm the exact name of the fixture as it appears on your screen?

It would also be really helpful to see an image of the Live Edit you have set.

Kind regards,
Will

[Sayhello]

Showtec Pixel Bar 12 MKII

I use 7 channels
1 Red, 2 Green, 3 Blue, 4 Master dimmer, 5 Presets, 6 Speed, 7 Strobe

[willm]

Hello,

Thanks for sending that over! As I mentioned, there are several fixture profiles matching the description of this fixture and it actually looks to me that you are using the wrong profile for what you need. I can see this because there are 2 profiles with very similar names- one named "Pixel Bar 12" and the other named "Pixel Bar 12 MKII". It looks to me that you are using the one named "Pixel Bar 12", whereas you actually need the "Pixel Bar 12 MKII".

I can tell this because channel 7 on your image shows that the channel is an 'Other' type, which is in alignment with the "Pixel Bar 12" fixture.

However, channel 7 on the "Pixel Bar 12 MKII" fixture should show as a Shutter & Strobe channel type.

First steps for you are to:

- Go to WTOOLS > Fixtures.
- Search for the "Pixel Bar 12 MKII" in the 'Cloud & Computer' list.
- Right click on it and select 'sync'.
- Search for the "Pixel Bar 12" on the 'Controller' list.
- Press the 'x' on the fixture to remove this fixture from your controller (to avoid any potential confusion between the two).

- Delete the fixture from your current project.
- Patch in the correct fixture to your project.

Using this profile you will notice that the Strobe button should work immediately, as well as all other Flash FX buttons. Note that if you set a Live Edit on your colour channels- this will take priority over the Blinder, Blackout and Wolf functions. It is best to avoid using the Live Edits on the colour channels if you can, instead using the Colour FX or static Colour screens to control this.

Hope this helps!

Kind regards,
Will

[Sayhello]

Thanks Will for your answers

But even when i use the right fixture, where can i edit channel4 (programs different programs install in the memory of the ledbar)

I think i only can change this by a live edit. But when is use live edit blackout did'nt work, because blackout is not the highest priority.

So i think Blackout should be the highest priority along with strobe, blinder, speed or an option in the Wolfmix where you can select it by yourself

Regards Ingo

[willm]

Hi Ingo,

I understand now, this issue is in fact slightly different to what it might appear. I have tested the profile and can see the cause of the issue here.

With this fixture- we have channel 5 which is the auto programs channel. When you set a Live Edit on this channel, it overrides channels 1-4. When you trigger the Blackout or Blinder buttons, it will control channels 1-4 as usual (i.e. set them to 0 on blackout or 255 on blinder), however this will not show any changes on the fixture because the auto programs channel is overriding the RGB + Dimmer channels on the fixture itself. So this is actually determined outside of the Wolfmix's programming.

Unfortunately the only way around this would be to not use the auto programs function and instead try to program a similar type of effect using the Wolfmix's controls.

Kind regards,
Will

[Sayhello]

Hello,

Thanks for your replay.

Maybe it would be better if strobe, blinder, speed etc has the highest priority or an option to select it by the user.

Best regards
Ingo

[willm]

Hello,

Again, in this case- that would not make a difference. The problem is that when you use your fixtures built in macro effects- the Wolfmix is essentially no longer in control of the fixture.

Kind regards,
Will