Can you remote control a wolfmix

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back_ache
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Can you remote control a wolfmix

Post by back_ache »

We use a wolfmix for band nights which presents one small issue in that the position where the controller is behind the audience and all the lights are on (and around) the stage so during setup it takes two people, one controlling the wolfmix and the other running around on stage addressing lights etc.

It would be nice to have a "riggers remote" that allows basic remote control from a phone or tablet, is there an existing interface that can be used or is there documentation for wtools API (that the "link" apps use) so someone could perhaps write a remote that someone could access with their devices web browser?

A a pinch could there be an interface in wtools itself? you could then remotely control the PC (though that would be quite crude to use)
axell
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Re: Can you remote control a wolfmix

Post by axell »

It can become a bit "complex" to remote control Wolfmix wireless. Wolfmix itself has NO communication protocols imbedded (beside MIDI), that is why we use WTOOLS as the "communication link" between a network (Cloud) and the device.
WTOOLS also has no "remote control" APIs for Wolfmix you could possibly use. And "mobile" DMX apps (phone/tablet) need to have a DMX Interface where you send your data TO, but then it is not programmable to mimic the Wolfmix user interface. So WTOOLS and mobile control is out of reach for that use.

As Wolfmix is a Live DMX controller, all activity is triggered from the Wolfmix itself. But in 2 instances it can receive DMX data and control certain functions: by MIDI for Dimmer control & Preset selection and also as DMX IN (WLINK) for coarse (individual) channel value manipulation - not really selecting pattern in ColorFX though. But I can think of "wireless-MIDI" as well as "wireless-DMX" solutions to be put in between a MIDI or DMX controller and the Wolfmix, to get the options mentioned above - but not full Wolfmix control.
I also like to emphasize the fact, that all wireless solutions are based on crowded and overpopulated 2.4Ghz networks, so frequent disconnects will be part of the remote experience.
djmaskell
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Re: Can you remote control a wolfmix

Post by djmaskell »

I've encountered this scenario before. My solution was using battery-powered wireless DMX dongles and a USB power bank.

I plugged a Chauvet D-Fi XLR RX receiver at the start my DMX chain (or at the start of the DMX cable at the usual mixing desk spot), and plugged a Chauvet D-Fi XLR TX in the back of the Wolfmix. I then plugged the WMX1 into a high power USB portable power bank. I was then able to carry the WMX1 around the room wherever I wanted and operate the lights as normal. I have done this on numerous occasions and it works really well. Below are links to the products I use. Range is about 150 yards or so.

Receiver: https://www.chauvetdj.com/products/d-fi-xlr-rx/
Transmitter: https://www.chauvetdj.com/products/d-fi-xlr-tx/
Power bank: https://www.anker.com/products/a1268?va ... 8338695318
TheUntalentedOne
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Re: Can you remote control a wolfmix

Post by TheUntalentedOne »

djmaskell wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:56 pm I've encountered this scenario before. My solution was using battery-powered wireless DMX dongles and a USB power bank.

I plugged a Chauvet D-Fi XLR RX receiver at the start my DMX chain (or at the start of the DMX cable at the usual mixing desk spot), and plugged a Chauvet D-Fi XLR TX in the back of the Wolfmix. I then plugged the WMX1 into a high power USB portable power bank. I was then able to carry the WMX1 around the room wherever I wanted and operate the lights as normal. I have done this on numerous occasions and it works really well. Below are links to the products I use. Range is about 150 yards or so.

Receiver: https://www.chauvetdj.com/products/d-fi-xlr-rx/
Transmitter: https://www.chauvetdj.com/products/d-fi-xlr-tx/
Power bank: https://www.anker.com/products/a1268?va ... 8338695318
That's a great idea! Thanks
back_ache
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Re: Can you remote control a wolfmix

Post by back_ache »

axell wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:14 am It can become a bit "complex" to remote control Wolfmix wireless. Wolfmix itself has NO communication protocols imbedded (beside MIDI), that is why we use WTOOLS as the "communication link" between a network (Cloud) and the device.
WTOOLS also has no "remote control" APIs for Wolfmix you could possibly use. And "mobile" DMX apps (phone/tablet) need to have a DMX Interface where you send your data TO, but then it is not programmable to mimic the Wolfmix user interface.
I remember a few years ago a free windows tool called eventghost that was a free automation tool for linking things together and even hosting a web interface for using remotely triggering things, I wonder if it could use midi to talk to a wolf'

Regards the overpopulation of 2.4ghz, you are right, in my case we are putting in a professional WiFi network with lighting within it's own virtual network, that said, I live by the question "bet the show on it?" so distrust radio and use cable wherever I can!
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