1 Year and 3 Months and Counting Waiting For Full Midi

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Jethrobowdean
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Re: 1 Year and 3 Months and Counting Waiting For Full Midi

Post by Jethrobowdean »

With the announcement of a new release that is coming available sometime soon, what is meant by Flash Midi Mapping and Preset Combining?
axell
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Re: 1 Year and 3 Months and Counting Waiting For Full Midi

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The FLASH buttons are those on the right side of Wolfmix. (Wolf-button, Strobe, Blinder, Blackout, eventually also Smoke) - which will be able to controlled by MIDI in addition to the Preset selection.

Preset combining is what most people do when coming from earlier DMX platforms: they create "partly" Presets (only a certain Move or setting) and then use "other Presets" (like Colors) to use the "base" (partly) Preset and combine these Presets then - so you can have multiple Preset buttons active! One Presets stays as the base function and on top other Presets for the "variable content" (i.e. Color). I think the term is "stacked Presets" (to "stack up" multiple Presets being active).
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Re: 1 Year and 3 Months and Counting Waiting For Full Midi

Post by leesinthemix »

Jethrobowdean wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:36 am With the announcement of a new release that is coming available sometime soon, what is meant by Flash Midi Mapping and Preset Combining?
It means doing something that we didn't ask for, basically.
Jethrobowdean
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Re: 1 Year and 3 Months and Counting Waiting For Full Midi

Post by Jethrobowdean »

So would the Primary ("Base Function") Preset and the variable or Stacked Presets all be callable via MIDI as presets are now? And if yes, would there be a procedure involving MIDI for changing the "Base Function" versus changing the variable or "Stacked" presets? In this context do I also understand correctly that the number of presets has doubled and that the Live Edits that might be attached to presets has also doubled? This might have solved the MIDI issues just in a slightly different way than I was expecting it. Because, the global functions are now callable via Flash MIDI, right? Thanks for the quick response
willm
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Re: 1 Year and 3 Months and Counting Waiting For Full Midi

Post by willm »

Hello,

Flash FX MIDI mapping means that the Flash buttons (Strobe, Blinder, Blackout, etc.) will be able to be mapped to MIDI commands.

Stacked Presets means that you will be able to choose what components to store within a Preset. When saving a Preset, you can choose to store any combination of the Colour (static Colour and Colour FX), Move (static Position and Move FX) and Beam (Beam FX) within the Preset. This means that you can, for example, trigger a Preset that only updates the colour settings without interrupting the current Move and Beam settings. Say for example you are running a Circle movement with a static Red colour and no Beam FX, you could then trigger a Preset which activates a static Blue colour, turns on a Dimmer chaser Beam effect, and does not affect the Circle movement (the movement will carry on without interruption).

It is essentially a different way of thinking about Presets which allows for more flexibility. For example, you could have a full page of 'traditional' Presets, a full page of different Colour presets, another for Move presets and another for Beam presets- you could then combine these on the fly to create all sorts of different looks in just a few clicks.

Also, yes- the number of Presets and Live Edits capable of being stored in each project has also indeed doubled.

Kind regards,
Will
Jethrobowdean
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Re: 1 Year and 3 Months and Counting Waiting For Full Midi

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When is the new Beta available? And will old projects in the previous version load into the new Beta?
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Re: 1 Year and 3 Months and Counting Waiting For Full Midi

Post by Jethrobowdean »

(Reference the Thread "Coming In February") The unveiling and related marketing hit Barcelona last month (feb 4-7) along with the post to the forum Feb 4. The advertisement said the Beta would be available in a few short weeks (4 weeks have passed now) but I never did see an actual answer to the original question of this post. Is the new Beta available next week, March 5th, March 8th? March 15th? Or are we talking a few short months? As reasonable expectations are set and existing users plan on their implementation and maybe converting existing projects over, are there any instructions or guidance about how to make the most of this new, exciting (maybe one of the most substantial ones yet?) releases. Are old projects forward compatible with the new Beta? If users have invested significant time and resources with prior versions is there anyway to salvage some of that work. This is not meant to dissuade or take away from all the work that went into this. This should be a joyous release and major good news but you guys have not sometimes been great at managing communications, expectations and helping your customers work best with what you have provided. I also saw some of the comments on Midi and I am not the forum representative for all things Midi but I have arguably been one of the most outspoken on Midi. I could be wrong but I believe that this release may provide much more Midi relief than your customers recognize because of the way that this is being communicated. The combination of Flash Midi for Global functions, stacking of presets and the sheer volume increase of presets and live edits may provide much more Midi capabilities than this community is understanding. Again, I don't speak for everyone, ie there are other Midi concerns that I have read on this thread and my own threads, but I think (IMHO) that there is a large opportunity to solve a great number of the prior MIDI concerns if this is communicated correctly.
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Re: 1 Year and 3 Months and Counting Waiting For Full Midi

Post by willm »

Hi Jethro,

Apologies- I missed your last post. We don't have a set date at the moment for actually releasing the Beta since we are still making the final tweaks and stability improvements. In order to create this update, a tonne of the foundational code of the Wolfmix firmware has had to be rewritten entirely. We are of course taking great care to ensure that this is all implemented well and is stable before releasing the update.

To answer your question- projects will be forwards compatible, yes.

Kind regards,
Will
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